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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2008, 07:01:56 PM »

which one of the avant series arm was it the one spring per section or the 2 spring pr section?
Do you mean it was locking off or being very hard to boom or had friction? please explain.
I think they found a way around it now as I can see from the video demo of the avant series under the lower avant series arm with one spring.
The D204 WAS SILKY SMOOTH but 2 springs per section and cables..
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 08:44:47 PM »

I think it was the Avant G. Looking at the picture of the rig I assume it's a two spring per section.

What it felt like was a short range where you could boom smoothly, but at a certain point it became very hard to boom; really pushing the arm down against the spring pressure. Booming up was lifting it more with your own arm than the rig's arm helping you boom. I don't think it had anything to do with friction though...

I guess the springs in the arm were too strong, and were pretty much in a relaxed state when the arm was level.
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 05:12:27 AM »

I think it was a bad tuned arm, with out preload on the springs, saying that this is also strange because even so if the springs were relaxed in the midle possition of the arm then the arm its selve would not lift even its weight its self and would start fro mid position. if that wasnt the case I cant explain it. specialy because arm geometry xtends springs from 0- 50,55degrees less than it extents them from 50,55- 100,110 degrees.
I have asked for this error explaination and Iam waiting for a reply.
Thanks for bringing this up.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2008, 02:22:00 PM »

Hello.
I have contact Movcam and ask about the incident talked above. they knew about this and admited that it was a prototype arm not finished 100% , and that there is no problem what so ever in the production arms. Since I cant talk to an engineer because they dont talk english and I dont talk chinese this will take a little bit longer to actually get an answer what the exact problem was.
I will be imforming you for any news.
I have also advized them to put some videos up that can show how the rig performs, how the arm performs, e.t.c.
These people I have to say first of all are very very polite and cooperative and are very interested about input and opinion of the technology and very rapid in achieeving and make real what they say they will.
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2008, 11:00:11 AM »

This will be an interesting wait Smiley BTW, you said you had ordered the D204 model but I do not see it on their website.
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2008, 12:31:18 PM »

Yes I know its not up on their web site, its on the chinese website as an anouncment.
Due to custom strike I have to wait until tuesday to get my rig out off customs.
I have also designed a very interesting poly bracket system that exept it being a great low mode bracket unuversal, it is also modular enough to do another nice trik for that specific shot you need to fly over tables, or evn move in a very narrow space in a bus which the rig is too wide to fit.
So here comes the interesting part.This company not only was positive to make this for me, they did this in a week.
its made of CF and aluminium.
They are very open minded and enthusiastic to make good products.
They did mistakes but they quickly correct errors.
I have some photos to post of the polybracket system I have designed and they made for me.
They have placed it in a lower model the D202 and took some pictures.
Would you like to see? Wink
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2008, 01:06:04 PM »

Yes, I would love to see it please... Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2008, 01:19:29 PM »

here it is

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2008, 02:39:42 PM »

Looks really good. I take it you're getting yours for free? Wink

Can it be configured without moving the camera?
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2008, 03:03:32 PM »

No you need to place the camera and rebalance.
This is actually only 2 of the configurations you can have.
This system has 3 more configurations in camera placement.
You can rotate the polybracket and cam on the stage 90 degrees so now the monitor and lower bat system is all parrallel, you can place the cam on the polybracket system 90 degrees so to operate with the system straight fwd, or you can extent the tubes so you make the cam and polybracket more away from gimbal for more clearence.
Possibilities for different shots like inserts in windows, cars, over tables, over bus seats, and so on.
System is very rigid and very lite.
Though its only for specific shots, with this system you get all this plus a adjustable length low mode set up.
For some of the configurations you will need a reasonable extension sled and it wont work for short sleds.
you can pace and balance the polybracket and camera in minutes.
And there is something more.
with one more component that Iam designing right now to finalize, you can transform the polybracket to a remote tilt head,so high to low in action is possible, and that would be the  ....rotator.
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2008, 04:17:28 PM »

Man!!!!! You are a design freak  Cheesy Cheesy So what is the price tag of this baby of yours?
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2008, 04:36:53 PM »

I dont know how much it will sell.But it will be avaliable soon I believe.
When I get something official I will tell you.
I will do some tests with it first.
I will be review it with the d204.
Hopefully I will do this by the end of next week.
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2008, 06:21:46 PM »

Ok. Will be looking forward to it.  Smiley
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