Another Stabilizer Comapany to hit the market - Movcam

[Job Scholtze]

I am happy its not cheap and tell you why. You guys build this stuff for fun. We, pro ops are making a living with the steadi gear. The moment those chinese bastards trow this stuff on the market for almost nothing, thats the day we are having a problem with our big dollar rigs. Becose we work on a daily basis with our gear, we need to know for 100% that we can trust our gear with 100.000 dollar cameras on it. The market will be flodded by fresh new ops using those cheap stuff and shit hits the fan. At the end quality always wins, but it takes so long before producers, who love to cut the rates, see this.

Operating is more than just a job, its an art and it takes a lot of effort. Dont trow that away for nothing

My 2 cents

[Leigh Wanstead]

Hi Job,

Do you have a video, which I can download and watch, shot using your g50 arm and your new sled?

TIA

Regards
Leigh

[trung dau]

You'r right about the high price steadicam, about the best quality. But i should tell 1 thing. THe developing country like my country ( VIetnam), it's nearly impossible to buy a steadicam rig for that high price. So that's why movies r not really interesting in my country except the documentary. I always dream for a real Steadicam rig but it's a big buck for me and i don't my future job could pay for them all?

[Leigh Wanstead]

From Job's purchasing power demoed, I think Netherlands is a really rich country.

You'r right about the high price steadicam, about the best quality. But i should tell 1 thing. THe developing country like my country ( VIetnam), it's nearly impossible to buy a steadicam rig for that high price. So that's why movies r not really interesting in my country except the documentary. I always dream for a real Steadicam rig but it's a big buck for me and i don't my future job could pay for them all?

[constantine tirint]

hello job.
First of all you ve got to chill out a bit.
Your investment isnt thretened from cheap chinese or other make rigs.You ve bought this tools to get the best out of it together with your experience.
there are also other jobs also that involve much more complex equipment and expensive as well and dont get payed as much as steadicam op with gear.
For example Apart of being a steadicam op, I also work as a grip playing around with panthers programable toys and tracks, and that is an art as well, the tool is more expensive but the rental and the grips rate together isnt more than half of the rate of a steadicam op.
Ofcource a steadicam op does stretch his body and break his back , but try and set up 10 location sets with a panther in a day and your back is going to be so much brocken.
Same goes with remote crane which Iam also an op and that is so tiring and so much art involved but the money? At least here are less.
To become a steadicam op  or a remote crane,  first you have to be a good camera op  so you have the frame you have the artistic point of view, then you jump into this and after practice and practice you will be good, unless there is something wrong with your body that doesnt leave you carry on.
I personally believe that being a steadicam op is not as hard as it sounds unless you arent educated in a film school and you arent determind to learn and practice.
Nothing special apart of the fact it looks glam and it makes other go wow.
You know there were so many time people coming to me in shots saying wow man you ve got to be really strong to carry all these how mauch it weights bla bla, and for me that Iaqm a 5.6 ft tall man 70 kilos wasnt as hard  to work , and I have worked with 3a and bl set up and it was a pig but I made it and iam certenly not a superman.
All iam trying to say is that its not an easy job but its not the only job that it involves art, technology, physic, though its propably the most well payed.
Do not forget that not all people who deserve to have a bite of that industry called tv or film bussiness have the same weidges and wealth but that certenly doent make them incapable of using tools that are directed to the high end wealth market.
After all apart of the original concept which was ingenius, the technology isnt as complicated and dear to build as in other stuff computers with hydrolics and electronics and programs and precition in motion.It should be that expensive.
I also read Howards report in the steadicam forum.
he said at the end something like I wish their arms were good , it would give me the chance to buy them , not with the exact words but similar.
To me that means that if they had a desent arm he would go in bussiness and buy and sell their arms or ven improve them as he is a great thinker in this game.
So what is the meaning of that? everyone would like to benefit from a product that is good and chep  and if one day they produce a g-90 wich is great and full of new improovments and tricks and is cheap and with good service you would go for it.
They have a long way until then but they arent as far as we all think.
Fly safe
Constantine

[Job Scholtze]

LOL, Chill out a bit? That dasnt sound very nice.

Secondly, i OWN a crane also, so dont try to tell me how it works, i am in this game for 19 years and i KNOW how to operate several cranes including tje panter, ( old thing ) and the junior with memory head.

Third, Steadicam op not hard to learn? lol, sure, you can lear to walk smooth with your wideangle lens. But there are people working there ass of to be better than that. ANd to do every hard to get shot the director wants.

To many people with statements like yours are flushing the market. That means that this " art " is going down. Like being a cameraman already goes down the drain, pricelike. Every amateur buys a camera and called himself cameraman and hits the market for cheap prices. He delivers crap, but hey, its cheap. Comments like yours isnt helping.

[Job Scholtze]

From Job's purchasing power demoed, I think Netherlands is a really rich country.

No Leigh, that means working your ass of, have a few big loans and invest for 9 years in the market

[Leigh Wanstead]

From Job's purchasing power demoed, I think Netherlands is a really rich country.

No Leigh, that means working your ass of, have a few big loans and invest for 9 years in the market

What about video shot using your g50 arm and sled? Any way to watch it? I just want to see if your art get improvement since you bought your fancy equitment compare to your glidecam package. Don't disappointed me

TIA

Regards
Leigh

[Job Scholtze]

lol, dont worry about my improvements. I'll try to get some from production. Tomorrow the are airing a music show, shot on hd with long lenses.
2007 is gonna be my AR year

[Leigh Wanstead]

I'll try to get some from production.

Thanks

I look forward to watching your art.

Regards
Leigh

[constantine tirint]

First the sentence chill out isnt I think not polite we use them in between friends here all the time. Nothing offensive, to that but if you for any reason think that is not polite then I apologise.
Second if you own a crane and you have work with all that equipment then you know what Iam talking about.
No job I dont operate only with wide lens. Dont make conclussions with out knowing.
I never critisized your operating, in fact I said you are experienced.
You are making a big deal out of this by attcking.
Iam not going to defent my operating now in my 41 years of age.
I never said take a steadicam and go.
I think I said go to school study film, be a camera man get experience, then jump into steadicam practice get expirience, get better.
Thats all it takes, and if you have done it any other way Id like to know please.
I do think I help because I encourage people to become ops folowing this way.
If that is what they want..
to protect your income in a free market is a big job.
Only in they us are united and lately ther has been a lot about it.
But you live in the netherlands, and not all countries are like yours and uk or us, you have got to understand that job.
Fly safe

[constantine tirint]

ah and I wouldnt call a super panther 3 and old thing. its a fine piece of equipment.
Constantine

[Job Scholtze]

First of all, i dont have to say one bad thing about your operating. I was talking in General.  I dont know what and how you operate so i dont have an opinion about that.

I just see it around me a lot of times. I call them one day ops. Hire that thing, trow yourself on the market for cheap, and move on to something else, giving steadicam a bad name. Producers think, nah, you cant do enough with steadicam, lets get dollys or whatever. And every time i have to proof them what i can do. After that day there supprised what steadicam really can do. If some chinese compagny trows all kind of cheap rigs on the market, means more one day ops are coming to destroy.

I dont mind new fresh ops. I give 4 workshops a year, and i do it for MUCH less money than other compagnys do, becose i want them to be really prof ops, and continue this " art " at the right way. And by keeping the costs low, more people can afford it.

I think the camera proffesion is a nice example. Look at 15 years ago, and look at it now. Hugh changes, lots of cheaper cameras on the market, lot of programms use it, hire some cheaper guy to do it. Same with editing.
I always say, the quality of a lot of things is growing, we send people to the moon, but television is getting worse by the day. Think about it.

Lets get back on topic. Chinese ripoffs. You cant denie its bad for our profession.

I always agree with your statements constantine, and i think about you as a proffessionel op. I just disagree with your statements about the chinese ripoffs.

[michael carolan]

Job, I have the greatest respect for your knowledge and willingness to share on this forum.
It therefore surprises me a little that you could be so dis-respectful of Chinese people ...after all:

Several improvements and innovations, such as the three-shared plow, the lou-li (plow-and-sow) implement, and the harrow, were developed subsequently. By the end of the Sung dynasty in 1279, Chinese agricultural engineering had reached a high state of development. When brought to Holland in the 17th Century, these plows began the Agricultural Revolution.

I wonder what happened to their patents!

Mike

[Job Scholtze]

Well, if you work at the IBC, and you see chinese bussy making pictures amd asking folders. 4 month later, the sell copys of your rig. How would that made you feel?

This has nothing to do with dis-respect of chinese people. Also nothing to do with ripp offs, becose i can think of some more brands doing that. I just hate to see this game going down BECOSE some people want to make some quik bucks. Chinese, Japanese, dutch, yellow, brown, white, purpule whatever.

Dont pull this tread into something it isnt