Unbelievable!!!!!

[MikkoWilson]

It would be interesting to see a photo that's not just a sales photo. A photo of a real user with the system tends to show more about the rig, and a view from the side shows most about the rig and it's effect on the operator.
I think it will help us understand the strange design of the system a little more.

You didn't mention if you have tried any other rigs?

- Mikko

[Jamie Glover]

How can you state, the videos of Steadydrive are stabilized afterwards? This is a very strange forum with a lot of steadi-kings I think 

Perhaps you have a problem with steadycams they are not selfmade. Or my System is to cheap? Sorry, but I have not 66.000 Dollars to buy a "real" steadicam....

Steadydrive DEMO

Bernd please trust me the demo is software stabilized in post >> look at the corners .. see any zooming ?

www.steadydrive.com/video19.mpg
www.steadydrive.com/video20.mpg

OMG  Is the video below hand held ?

www.steadydrive.com/video14.mpg

Don't get me wrong this system could work if it had (good gimble and handle) (sled) (nice padded vest) (smaller arm) (smaller connector for arm) (etc) . I have no problems with cheap systems (cheaper the better for me) but it HAS TO WORK ..

I do wish them all the best with it but unless they make big changes its going to be hard..

[Cedric Akins]

I would like to here what the designer of the rig was thinking when he made this one.

Hey Bernard, I try to avoid conversations or threads that have a lot of negativity in them, but the guys are right. No one is condemning you for your purchase of the rig it is just that the design seems to be non-functional when compared to many other systems.

When I say non-functional I mean that when you are doing a running shot or any shot you should not see hen the operator takes a step. In the demos of the Steadydrive system you can feel when the operator takes any and every step. The system is supposed to be designed to separate the operator from the camera.

Granted that all operators, of any steadicam like system, aren't always that great on every shot. But when a company shows a demo of their product it has to represent the level of professionalism of the company. I am no steadi-king, I have not even used a steadicam, nor have I finished a complete rig. Also no one on this forum is trying to make you feel bad about your choice in stabilizer systems, but are more or less curious about how it is supposed to work. And if the designer can not answer that then he is selling something that does not work and you should not buy it if it does not work.

[Bernd Juenemann]

It would be interesting to see a photo that's not just a sales photo. A photo of a real user with the system tends to show more about the rig, and a view from the side shows most about the rig and it's effect on the operator.
I think it will help us understand the strange design of the system a little more.

You didn't mention if you have tried any other rigs?

 - Mikko

Hello Mikko,

yes, I will ask my wife to take some photos of me.
This is my first full-rig. Before I bought this, I worked with an handheld system.

Regards

Bernd

[Charles King]

Can't wait to see the clips and photos Bernd. Again, welcome to the forum. BTw, don't worry we are open-minded people on this board but sometimes we have to be critical about issue such as this. Of course on a professional level without using foul words. I think we have maintained that so far We are nice guys on this board and we've pretty much geared to llearning the ins ad outs of the Steadicam or any other system for that matter. That's why it's called HB. 

[Bernd Juenemann]

How can you state, the videos of Steadydrive are stabilized afterwards? This is a very strange forum with a lot of steadi-kings I think 

Perhaps you have a problem with steadycams they are not selfmade. Or my System is to cheap? Sorry, but I have not 66.000 Dollars to buy a "real" steadicam....

Steadydrive DEMO

Bernd please trust me the demo is software stabilized in post >> look at the corners .. see any zooming ?

www.steadydrive.com/video19.mpg
www.steadydrive.com/video20.mpg

OMG  Is the video below hand held ?

www.steadydrive.com/video14.mpg

Don't get me wrong this system could work if it had (good gimble and handle) (sled) (nice padded vest) (smaller arm) (smaller connector for arm) (etc) . I have no problems with cheap systems (cheaper the better for me) but it HAS TO WORK ..

I do wish them all the best with it but unless they make big changes its going to be hard..

Hello,

I contacted Steadydrive and ask for the movies Nr. 19, 20 and 14.
And here is the answer:

"Sehr geehrter Herr Juenemann,

die von Ihnen auf unserem Webserver gefundenen Videos stellen nur zum Teil Aufnahmen mit unseren Systemen dar. Einige Videos sind lediglich zur Veranschaulichung und zum Vergleich gedacht. Ausserdem möchten wir anmerken, dass wir keinerlei Links zu den Videos geschaltet haben. Zu Ihrer Frage im Einzelnen: Die von Ihnen angesprochenen Aufnahmen wurden nicht mit der Runsteady Salix aufgenommen. Es handelt sich hierbei um Aufnahmen, welche ohne Steadycam gedreht wurden und nachträglich mit einem Computerprogramm bearbeitet wurden. Sie dienen zur Veranschaulichung, daß eine vernünftige Stabilisierung mit einem Computerprogramm nicht zu realisieren ist. Ihre Anfrage hat jedoch gezeigt, daß öffentlich zugängliche Videodateien auf unserem Webserver zu Missverständnissen führen können. Wir werden die Videos daher in einen passwortgeschützen Ordner verschieben.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

STEADYDRIVE Balance Systems Ltd."

And here is the Babel Fish translation:

"Dear Mr. Juenemann, the videos found by you on our Web server represent only partially photographs with our systems. Some videos are only for illustration and meant to the comparison. In addition we would like to mark that we did not switch any left to the videos. To your question in detail: The photographs addressed by you were not taken up with the Runsteady Salix. It concerns here photographs, which were turned without Steadycam and with a computer program were later worked on. They serve for the illustration that a reasonable stabilization with a computer program is not to be realized. Their inquiry showed however that publicly accessible video files on our Web server can lead to misunderstandings. We will shift the videos therefore into password cannons a file. Yours sincerely STEADYDRIVE balance of system Ltd."

Video Nr. 19 & 20 are really not taken with a steadycam. The stupidest would see that. The videos I have taken with my system are really great (so I think), perhaps you will think it is possible to get better videos with other systems.

I will also send some videoclips this week. Than you can judge....

Regards

Bernd

[Jamie Glover]

You see    the video number 18 you posted was fixed in post ..

welcome to the forum Bernd.  Im looking foward to your videoclips and pictures.

Jamie

[Leigh Wanstead]

Hi Bernd,

How much you paid for if you don't mind me asking?

TIA

Regards
Leigh

[cosmin rotaru]

Bernd, welcome to the HBS!

I'm sorry that we didn't talk about this "thing" before you bought it. It would have been better if you'd register here and ask our opinion BEFORE buying that "thing". It would have been better if the designer of that "thing" would come by and ask about stabilizers...
I'm sorry but I just can't call that hideous "thing" a stablibliblazlalang... see, I just can't. I'm really sorry. Is just hideous.
- the arm is to big. It's own inertia is probably bigger than the sled's. Not good.
- the gimbal is not a real gimbal... It has the movements like a real gimbal, but it is not a gimbal. I tried such a solution for a handheld and the friction is unacceptable. And that was a light, handheld system... Then, you should know that the stabilizer works by moving the center of gravity outside the camcorder, in a place you can easily access. That is just bellow the gimbal. You should not operate above the gimbal. It defeats the purpose of the stabilizer. The person who placed that rubber grip ABOVE the "gimbal", has no real knowledge about stabilizers.
- the glasses on the dude's head alone says: "move along.. there's nothing to see here"
- the "demo video" shows no stabilizer POV. Just a 3rd person POV where we see the operator struggling with the... whatever that is.
- I'll just stop...

Now, if you read my previous posts since I'm registered here, you will see that I'm not a bad guy and I'm not so bitter as a person. But this stlablibliblabla "thing" just makes me anger.

[jose maidana]

Yes Cosmin, I absolutely agree you about all your points. But I´d like to add that that "thing" is ugly as hell. And that is bad enough for me 

[Bob Hill]

Cosmin,

Is "stlablibliblabla" a Romainian technical term?

Bob Hill

[cosmin rotaru]

Bob, no my man! "Stabilizer" is "stabilizator" in Romanian! That "thing" has no particular word in Romanian... Maybe "de capatat" (you'd like to know what that means, ha  )

[David West]

Bernd  --

is that your brother-in-law's company?

[Charles King]

Bernd  --

is that your brother-in-law's company?

I was just about to ask a question similar to yours David. It seems he has been taking it very personal so I had a thought that he must have close ties with this company. 

[Bernd Juenemann]

Hi guys,

it seems, that it is going to be next week, that you will get the pictures and videos. Than you can see what  is possible with this "thing". Please be patient so long.

I payed 1800,- Euros for it.  And - Cosmin, I am satisfied with it. That is the main thing!

Perhaps you think, I am a stupid guy who does not realize that he bought bullshit? Please wait until you have seen the videos. Than judge! Until then please stop the postings with these negative comments. Perhaps otherwise you arouse the impression of a kindergarten.

Regards

Bernd