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Combination glidecam - walter klassen - baer bel
« on: December 07, 2005, 03:41:47 PM »

Hi!

What do you guys think about the combination of walter klassen vest, baer bel arm and glidecam sled?
The reason is price, comfort and weight capasity.

I really like the baer bel arm. Might go for the sled as well, but glidecam has a lot of adjustments below like the artemis.

Thanks for any input.  Choosing a rig is very difficult...

Roger
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Re: Combination glidecam - walter klassen - baer bel
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2005, 04:07:35 PM »

Honestly speaking Roger, i think it is totally a personal decision. We may say we like a certain model but it doesn't mean you too will like it. Everythin gis base on your needs and budget. Secondly it seems you are gearing up for a real professional setup whisch I think you should ask in the steadicam or Glidecam forum. As not everyone here is a professional steadicam or glidecam operator. We just don't want to give you the wrong advice.

I have tried the klassen vest and find it strange at first basically because it was my first time trying it on. Most likemthe front mounted vest simply because thwy are more comfortable with that setup. Are mix matching systems for optional reasons or due to cost?

Personally I would test these models out first and see what each have to offer and what you can live with and live without. I've said this many many times that in the end it is the the individual's pockets and preference that decides the final factor.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2005, 05:21:19 PM »

Hi charles!

You are right when you say I should try them out. Its just difficult to get the chance to try them around heer. I am going to a steadicam workshop in germany next month so I will probably learn more there.
The reason why I am considering the back mount, is because I heer this is much better for your back in the long run.
I might go for a front mount in the beginning tough.

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Re: Combination glidecam - walter klassen - baer bel
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2005, 06:08:20 PM »

oh what a good chance to point out some recent discussion regarding front and back mounts (and the importance of tryign out for yourself): http://www.steadicamforum.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=2426&view=findpost&p=13907

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Re: Combination glidecam - walter klassen - baer bel
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2005, 08:44:52 PM »

Good tip Mikko. I had read that post yesterday.
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Re: Combination glidecam - walter klassen - baer bel
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2005, 04:38:33 AM »

Walter klassen vest you can buy it blind.As long as you give him the right measures the vest will be perfect and you will never be sorry about this buy.
The baer-bel arm is a good choise arm and you being german you can pop down to the man and see his goods.
I dont know why you have choosen the glidecam sled though to go with these,maybe you should look into baer-bels titanium  sled which is very very nice and not quite far more expensive than the glidecam..
Not that its a bad sled but its on a lower end.
Constantine Wink
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Re: Combination glidecam - walter klassen - baer bel
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2005, 07:14:51 AM »

Hi!
The reason I have looked at glidecam sled is beacause it seem to have a lot of the same features as the artemis when it comes to adjustments below. I talked to a guy who owned a artemis and he said these adjustments were good when balancing. But I am considering a baer bel sled also

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2005, 08:56:35 AM »

the baer bel sled is far superior than this and the artemis- my opinion-because
better stage,better gimbal,choice of different yokes,very rigid 2'' titanium post,very nice top and bottom electronics for 12,24v, more outputs,and more, sizes of desired post, superpost.
It has all the adjustments you will need, and if you feel like have a modification Marcus will do it for you.
Great service and next door to you.
Go and check it out, its a great rig with loads of features and for me top quality top gear.
constantine Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2005, 09:19:29 AM »

...and after all this wonderful advice from a true professional operator it is still you wha has to decide the right rig for you. Remember Constantine has his own preference which he is happy with but your preference might be different from his. Just keep that in mind. Just because I like chocolate doesn't mean that the next person does  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2005, 11:44:48 AM »

thanks for your advice! Constantine: do you own the baer-bel?

I have talked a lot with Marcus at baer-bel so I know what he sells are greate stuff. I do not live in germany, but Norway so stopping by at his place isnīt that easy.

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2005, 12:18:43 PM »

A friend of mine owns the arm and the old sled with the ab battery mount like the old pro like.
The rig is great .But the new one if avaliable is fantastic.The quality of marcus work is top.
Norway hey? still closer than usa.the arm is far supirior than the 3a, its a compression design,big boom range,and very smooth.Comparable with the pro - same guy has a pro arm also - its somehow .....different, very smooth but diferent.You should really go and find a way trying the stuff.The g-50 is  of what they say very smooth and its on the same price range.Got more comfused hey?well all of these are top quality products and since you are starting of youll be getting used to any of them.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2005, 01:04:51 PM »

I have got a nice package price from markus. I am still unsure about his vest. Seem a bit simple, but maybe a good for starters (I will get one used for 2000 euro). Though I hate spending money on the same things over and over again. Thatīs why I want to try out the walter Klassen vest. I may know someone here in Norway selling one used. I dont have the money for a new one.
Going to the workshop in Germany in january so maybe I get time to stop at baer-bel...

Roger
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2005, 03:33:25 PM »

I dont know about his vest, looks like a simple solid and nice front mount design.
But the klassen, you will have to be the right size so unless this guy who is selling it is same size as you you might have a problem there.
Take care
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Re: Combination glidecam - walter klassen - baer bel
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2005, 06:19:30 PM »

How much is that bear bell sled.
And the V25 is not a lowend sled.  Undecided Its a lot bang for the buck

And if you like to spend anyway, get the G50 ore G70 arm Thats more value. And support from the usa is fantastic with UPS.
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Re: Combination glidecam - walter klassen - baer bel
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2005, 12:14:40 PM »

Hi!

I am gonna have a look at the vest tomorrow or on thursday. How will I know exactly if it fits me right or not?
Is there no way to adjust things on it? What about if an opeator is gaining weight? Spesially now around christmas...
The bear bel sled is about 8000 - 9000 euro.

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