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Topic: Glidecam V25 vs. Steadicam Flyer Quick Comparison chart (Read 3882 times)
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MikkoWilson
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Don't forget the Flyer arm is Iso-elastic! Rather big point there.
..and the Flyer only has a list price of $7000 . . you can get it for almost at least as low as $6600
Do you have the minimum camera weights.. and the overall weights of both systems? Just curious as to how much the V25 weighs.
- Mikko
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Tim Le
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Mikko,
Are you sure it's iso-elastic? Granted I've never flown an Ultra, Master, or Provid arm, but the Flyer arm I tried a year or two ago at CineGear didn't seem iso-elastic at all. It seemed to float at certain height and you had to hold considerable pressure at the high and low points.
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Robert Eder
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I think the Flyer arm is not isoelastic.
I´ve tried it at ibc next to the g50/g70 which is "half isoelastic" according to garret.
garret didn´t want to explain me the function of the geo/ride adjustments, but i think there are some mechanic things going on in this arm(g50).
the flyer arm doesn´t have any of these weird mechanic things.
charles, you tried them too, whats your opinion?
i´d prefer the glidecam over the flyer, it carries nearly the same weight as the archer and has lots of junction possibilities.
greetings, robert
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Charles King
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Mikko, I would have to agree with the rest. The flyer arm is not 100% Iso-elastic. I mean even the G50/G70 arm is not 100% Iso-elastic. The characteristic is there but the function is less than complete.
I assume that you are talking about how it has Iso-elastic characteristics and not that it has, right?
Robert, I too like the Glidecam system but I had gave the Flyer arm an extra star due to it's really extra smooth ability. Of course, overall the Glidecam is better than the Flyer.
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« Last Edit: October 09, 2005, 06:58:11 PM by Charles King »
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Robert Eder
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there are lots of pros and cons between the systems.
the flyer arm performs better at the same weight, much better and the adjustability is great!
they should put some stronger springs in the package.
at the ibc they flew the 235 mostly with a g50
but i really love the incredibly lightweight of the flyer!
greetings, robert
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Charles King
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No argueménts there, Robert.  |
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MikkoWilson
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Ooops.. looks like i missed a couple of questions that were directed at me. Sorry. Oh well, better late than never. I also agree that the Flyer arm is not 100% Iso-elastic in the sence that it does not stay where you leave it. Historically the only arms that have fully stayed where you left them have been the ProVid style (and SK) arms.. which only stayed becuse there is so much friction in them! But The G-50 and G-70 arms ARE fully iso elastic if you want them to be.. it's all in how you adjust the ride. Infact at IBC at one point I managed to get the G-50 *too* iso, it just flopped around (while carying the camera). As mentioned by Robert, the Geo arms do house an internal mechanical linkage (that works like a cam) to adjust the springs as you boom - this is what allows it to remian in balance and truly stay where you leave it. - It works too, I was able to set the Archer at any point in it's range and let go and it didn't move! Charles, yes I was refeing to the fact that the Flyer has Iso-elastic properties.. it is built to require as little force as possible to boom (the main idea of I-E). but yeah, it does still like to go to it's float point - but the pull is no where as strong as a fully non-iso arm. The V25 arm will of course also becmove more and more iso, the more weight you put on it and the tirghter you pull the springs. I discussed the details of the Flyer arm in tom's rig's thread here: http://hbsboard.com/index.php/topic,1330.msg13210.html#msg13210 - Mikko |
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